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Christians claim that since the predicted Prophet's name (Jesus) will be called "Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6-7, then therefore, he must be GOD Almighty Himself.

Let us read the Verses: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with justice and righteousness from hence forth even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.  (Isaiah 9:6-7)"

It is quite unfortunate that in the old Jewish culture, people used to be named "Godly" names.  This is quite misleading and deceiving to Christians when they try to define the deity of Jesus.

Many people in the Jewish old culture were called "God" before Jesus' existence on earth.  The following translations were verified by http://bible.crosswalk.com:

Emyln an eminent scholar went to show the Bible, although the word "God" is employed ,it is often used to signify persons who are invested with subordinate authority and power in comparison with the supreme Bring: "Angels are styled as God.... 'Thou hast made him a little lower than the Gods' (Psalm 8:5) ;Magistrates are Gods. (Exodus 22:28, Psalm 82:1, John 10:34-35) ; sometimes a person is styled as God as Moses is twice called a God to Aaron, and afterwards a God to Pharaoh; and the Devil is also called the God God of this world, i.e., the Prince and mighty ruler of it, who by unjust usurption and God's permission occupies this position. Now as He who alone is God in the former scene is infinitely above all these, so we find Him distinguished from all others who are called Gods"

1- Ezekiel means "Strong God".  It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".

2- Israel means "Challenge God", "he struggles with God", or "fight with God".  It also means "Defeat God".

3- Gabriel also means "Strong God".

4- Isaiah or Jesaiah means "Salvation from Yahweh".  It could also mean "Salvation".

5- Joshua means "Yahweh Saves".

6- Elli, which is a common name for men before and after Jesus, means "God" or "Yahweh".

7- Immanuel, which is another name for Jesus, means "With us is God".  This name is also common for men before and after Jesus.

8- Elihu means "My God is He". 

9- Gedaliah means "Jehovah is Great".  People before and after Jesus are given this name.  See 2 Kings 25:22-24.

10- Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows". 

11- Eliab means "my God is Father".

12- Elzaphan means "God is Protector"

13- Eliakim means "God raises".

14- Elisha means "God is Salvation". 

15- Eleazar means "God has helped"

16- Judah or Yahawdah means "Praised".  It generally means "Praised by Yahweh".

17- Hashabiah means "Jehovah has considered".

18- Mattithiah means "Gift of Jehovah".

19- Michael (nick name "Mike") means "who is like God".  Yet, non is like Him, the Almighty.  See Exodus 8:10.

20- Jesus means "Salvation".  It doesn't mean "God Saves" as Christians claim.  Jesus (Yeshua) means in Hebrew "salvation" and not "God saves".  Yud Shin Waw Ain - this name doesn't include the word "God".

Joshua (Yehoshya) - Yod Hey - Waw Shin Ain
Isaya (Yeshayah) - Yod Shin Ain - Yod Hey .

These two names are combination of Yod, Shin, Ain - salvation and Yod, Hey - Yahwe.

Yosh Hey (Yah) is common short from Yahwe, for example Alleluia comes from "Halelu Yah" - "Glorify Yahwe".

 

I confirmed the correctness of the above translations with the Jewish Sabbath Temple. See also how the Christian Translators are in error regarding some of the translations of the "Godly" names that were fixed above.

 

In the above examples, we clearly see that the old Jewish culture gave "Godly" titles to people who are not in anyway divine.

Notice that in Isaiah 9:6, it clearly says "and his NAME shall be...."  This clearly proves that "Mighty God" is just a name given to the coming Prophet (Jesus).  Since this is just a name, this also clearly proves other people in the old Jewish culture were named that name before, even if they're not mentioned in the current Bible.

Have Isaiah 9:6 said "and he will be God Almighty Himself" or "and he will be the God Almighty" then this would be different, because we now would be talking about not just a NAME given to someone, but rather GOD Almighty Himself.

Important Note: There is not a single Verse in the New Testament where Jesus was called directly or named directly "Mighty God" or "God".  Notice in Isaiah 9:6 it clearly says "and his name shall be...."  Jesus was called "Son of GOD" as many others in the Bible were called Sons of GOD as shown below in this article, but he never even once was addressed as "Mighty God" or "God", nor he ever claimed to be "Mighty God" or "God". 

The Jews believe that Isaiah 9:6 was referring to somebody else, other than Jesus.  The Book of Isaiah which obviously contains Isaiah 9:6 came 700 before the birth of Jesus.  The Jews had absolutely no problem calling somebody who came 700 years before Jesus "El Gibor (Mighty God)".  That person's name is Hezekiah.  The Jews believe that Isaiah 9:6 is referring to Hezekiah and not Jesus, and they did indeed address Hezekiah as "Mighty God".  This proves that many people before Jesus were named even at birth "El Gibor (Mighty God)", just like people were also named "Ezekiel (Strong God)", "Elli (God)", "Gabriel (Strong God)", etc...

 

The "Mighty God" translation:

"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 is "El Gibor".  This is not exactly "Mighty God", but close.  "Strong" is more correct (but it is different from strong of "hazak").  Here both El and Gibor are nouns - this is short full spell is "El Hu Gibor".

Anyway "El Gibor" and "Gabriel" are same thing. They both mean "Strong God". "Gabriel" is an angel's name in the Bible.

The word "Gibor" in Isaiah 9:6 and the word "Gibor" of Gabriel have exactly the same root, and they are both the same word.  The word itself can also be translated as "Man of God".

By the way, "EL" can also mean "Judge".  So "El Gibor" can also be translated as "Strong Judge". 

The "Mighty God" translation is just one possibility.  This type of differences in translation exists throughout the Hebrew language, where words' meaning change depending on the sentence.  That is why there is no one single solid Bible Translation!.  Theologians have difficulties agreeing on some key issues in translations.  That's why we see so many different Bibles with so many different translations.

But anyhow, even if "Mighty God" was the right translation, it is still just a NAME given to Jesus and nothing more.  It doesn't in anyway prove that he is the creator of the Universe.  Many people as shown above were given the misleading "Godly" titles before Jesus.

 

Did Jesus ever claim to be "Mighty God" or "God"?

From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

Let us look at John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One."  This verse is  severely misunderstood and is taken out of context, because beginning at verse John 10:23 we read (in the context of 10:30) about Jesus talking to the Jews. In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states: "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."

These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, " My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...,"  in John 10:29 completely negates this claim, otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus. 

Also let us look at verse John 17:20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE".  In this verse, the same word ONE used, the Greek, HEN is used, not only to describe Jesus and the Father but to describe Jesus, the Father and eleven of the twelve disciples of Jesus. So here if that implies equality, we have a unique case of 13 Gods.

Of the verse in question, "I and the Father are One" in (John 10:30), we also need to take note of the verses following the 30th verse in the text. In those verses, the Jews accuse Jesus falsely of claiming to be God by these words. He however replies, proving their accusation wrong by their own text: "The Jews answered him saying,'For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because that thou being a man, makest thyself a God '" (John 10:33).  

Jesus replies to this accusation saying: "Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, "I said ye are gods. If He can call them gods, unto whom the word of God came, say ye of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the world, "Thou blasphemeth," because I said I am the son of God?'" (John 10:34-36).

Let us look at Acts 2:22 "O you men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you..."  Peter in the Book of Acts testifies about Jesus.  Jesus thus even to his disciples, as to early Christians, not poisoned by Pauline doctrine, was a man, not a God.

 

From www.jewsforjudaism.org:

Question: In John 10:30 Jesus says, "I and the Father are one [hen]." Doesn't this show that they are one in essence?

This statement does not suggest either a dual or triune deity. What John's Jesus meant by the word hen ("one") becomes clear from his prayer concerning the apostles: "That they may be one [hen], just as we are one [hen]" (John 17:22), which means that they should be united in agreement with one another as he (Jesus) is always united in agreement with God, as stated: "I [Jesus] always do the things that are pleasing to Him [God]" (John 8:29).
There is thus no implication that Jesus and God, or the twelve apostles are to be considered as of one essence.

 

Questions to you:

From the names above, do you honestly think that "Strong God", "Yahweh is Strong God", "Yahweh Saves", "God", "Yahweh", "My God is He", "God is Salvation", "Jehovah is Great" and "Mighty God" have much differences in their meanings?

I mean, why consider Jesus as GOD Himself, which is a great blasphemy, when he was given a normal "Godly" title that was given to others before him?

If Jesus was named "Jehovah is Great (Gedaliah)" for instance, then we would see Trinitarian Christians trying their best to prove that he is GOD Almighty Himself.   Why then not consider the people who were named "Gedaliah" before and after Jesus as GOD Almighty Himself also?  Why not consider these people divine as well?

Important Note: So if Jesus was named "Michael or Mike (who is like God)", then we would see Trinitarian Christians claim that he is GOD Almighty, since Exodus 8:10 clearly states that there is non like GOD, and yet Jesus (Mike) is like GOD which would without a doubt make him GOD.  

This is the type of false interpretations and conclusions that Trinitarian Christians fall into.

Very Important Note: The reason why the foretold person would be regarded as "Mighty God" is not because he will be GOD Almighty Himself.  His name or title being "Mighty God" is nothing but a way to show that the person will be very important and very powerful.  He will be like a God on earth because of his Might.  I must emphasize that again, the person's "NAME" will be called "Mighty God".  Isaiah 9:6 never said that the person will be GOD Almighty Himself, or GOD Almighty will be that person.   The word "NAME" means that the name will be just a (misleading) Godly title as many misleading Godly titles were given to others before and after Jesus peace be upon him in the Bible.  I must also emphasize that in the New Testament, Jesus was not even once called or addressed as "Mighty God" or "God", nor did he ever claim to be "Mighty God" or "God".  So if he were indeed the foretold person in Isaiah 9:6 (which I personally believe he were), then this means that Jesus peace be upon him is not GOD Almighty, but a powerful Messenger of GOD Almighty or someone who has Might that was chosen by GOD Almighty.  The Jews as I mentioned above, believe that the person is Hezekiah and not Jesus.  Either way, the person in Isaiah 9:6 is not GOD Almighty Himself.

 

Is Jesus the biological Son of GOD?

Trinitarian Christians claim that since Jesus was called "Son of GOD", then this would make him the Creator of the Universe Himself.  This is a great blasphemy, because this belief holds no concrete ground what so ever!.  You do not call someone GOD Almighty Himself from a conclusion, especially when it easily can be refuted.

Many people before Jesus were called "Sons of GOD" in the Bible.  Let us look at few of them:

1- Exodus 4:22 "Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn.Israel was GOD's Son before Jesus since Israel is the "first born".  Does this make Israel divine?

2- Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."  Ephraim is another name for Israel. 

3- Psalm 2:7 "....Jehovah had said onto me (David), thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."  Since GOD Almighty chose David to be His begotten Son, does this make David divine too?

The "Son of GOD" title that was given to Jesus wasn't the only title for him.  Jesus was also called "Son of David."  Keep in mind that Jesus came at least 1,000 years after King David.  Jesus was also called "Son of Man".  See Matthew 1:1, Matthew 9:27, Matthew 12:23, Matthew 15:22, Matthew 20:30-31, Matthew 22:42, and many other verses.

Is the Man whom Jesus was called his son (possibly David) divine?  Is David divine since Jesus is his Son?

How come Christian Roman Catholics have created the Theological Science of Maryology, and never created the Theological Science of Davidology?  I mean think about it, if Jesus the "Almighty GOD" was called "Son of David", then shouldn't this make David a divine person, since he is one from the many billions that GOD created in this world?

Jesus was called:

Son of GOD
Son of David
Son of Man

Why consider Jesus as the actual biological Son of GOD, when the same expression was used for King David being Jesus' Father who existed 1,000 years before Jesus?

Why can't "Son of GOD" that was used for Jesus be just an expression just like the "Godly" titles and "Son of GOD" expressions that were used for others before Jesus as well as shown above?

 

Conclusion:

Christians believe in Jesus as GOD Almighty, yet, he never claimed to be GOD.  There is absolutely no concrete base for Trinity.  Just because Jesus was called "Son of God" doesn't also make him GOD.  David was called GOD's BEGOTTEN Son in Psalm 2:7.  Israel was called GOD's first born Son in Exodus 4:22.  There are many other examples for GOD's Sons in the Bible.

All what Christians have are conclusions.  Conclusions come from theories.   Theories are always venerable for disproof.  Have Jesus said "I am your LORD worship me" as GOD said in the Old Testament, then we would have a solid concrete ground.  But as far as I am concerned, Trinity is very weak and bogus! with all respect due to Trinitarian Christians.  Non of GOD's religions (including the New Testament) taught Trinity.  The word "Trinity" doesn't even exist in the Bible!. 

Trinity is a false interpretation that was caused by the unfortunate exaggerating and misleading "Godly" name that was given to Jesus and to others in the Old Jewish Culture.  The only unique title that GOD Almighty had in the Bible that non was ever called (including Jesus) was "Yahweh" or "Jehovah".

Bring me one Bible Verse that directly referred to Jesus as "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" and then I'll consider Trinity to be a valid belief in the Bible.


This article  belongs to   Osama Abdallah  May Allah bless him

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